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ARE ARMED FORCES VETERANS (JCOs/NCOs/ORs) CURSED AGAIN?

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Dear all, I AM DEEPLY HURT AND IT PAINS ME TO ASK THE FOLLOWING 1. IS THAT A CRIME TO JOIN AFs AND SERVE THE COUNTRY? 2. WHY ESM ARE AGAIN DENIED FULL PENSION ARREARS WEF 1.1.2006? Kindly click the following link on MOD Order of 3.9.2015, Pension arrears wef 1.1.2006 for JCOs/NCOs and ORs (Table A- Army, B-Airforce and C- Navy). http://ex-servicemenwelfare.blogspot.in/2015/09/revised-tables-for-minimum-guaranteed.html The order says, that the PCDA(P) will issue a circular and then the Banks and DPDOs start paying arrears. (Pension arrears (wef 1.1.2006, wef 1.7.2009 and wef 24.2009) orders were issued on 30.7.2015 and they all already got their pension arrears in Aug 15. And Pension arrears (wef 1.1.2006, wef 1.7.2009 and wef 24.2009) orders were issued on 3.9.2015 and they are likely to get their qarrears in this month). Now, I wish to place the following sample Pension case of a Sgt ('Y' Gp - III) with 17.5 yrs, to be revised as per 3.9.15 order:- -------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------- BP Revised as per BP Revised as per BP Revised as per BP Now Revised MOD Order Cir.397 wef 1.1.06 Cir 430 wef 1.7.09 Cir 501 wef 24.9.12 d/d 3.9.15 (Cir under issue) ------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------- Rs.4065/- Rs.5416/- Rs.5877/- Rs.4605/- wef 1.1.06. Rs.4605/- Rs.6132/- Rs.6653/- ------------- (Worked out based on the BP now revised wef. 1.1.06, which entails subsequent revisions as the revisions done for Officers and Civilian employees, BASED ON 30.7.15 ORDERS. The figures arrived are subject to correction) ------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------- But as per the second sentence of para 3 of above order of MOD, ................ However, where revised pension in terms of GO], MOD letter No.PC-10(1)/2009-D(Pen/Pol) dated 08.03.2010 and No. 1(13)/2012/D(Pen/Policy) dated 17.01.2013 is higher than the rate indicated in annexure attached with this letter then the same will continue to be treated as basic pension/family pension from 1.07.2009 and 24.09.2012 respectively. That is to say, ------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------ BP now to be Revised as per BP Revised as per BP Revised as per MOD Order dt 3.9.15 Cir 430 wef 1.7.09 Cir 501 wef 24.9.12 Rs.4605/- *Rs.5416/- *Rs.5877/- (remain same) ----------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------- And the arrears for diff of Rs.4605-4065 = 540 + DA variables from 1.1.06 to 30.6.09. As per the MOD Order of 3.9.15, para ----- 6. The provisions of this letter shall take effect from 01.01.2006 and arrears, if any, shall be allowed from 01.01.2006 up to the date where revised pension/family pension in terms of GOI, MOD letter No. PC 10(1)/2009-D (Pen/Pol) dated 08.03.2010 and No. 1(13)/2012/D (Pen/Pol) dated 17.01.2013 is paid. =================================================================== Dear Vet bros, The RED MARKED paras in the MOD letter d/d 3.9.15 are inserted for what purpose? ONLY TO DENY THE BENEFIT OF ARREARS TO ALL ESM.? THIS TYPE OF CONDITION IS NOT THERE IN ORDER OF 30.7.15 (CG EMPLOTYEES) AND ALSO IN THE ORDER OF MOD D/D 3.9.15 (FOR COMMISSIONED OFFICERS) WHO WILL TAKE UP THE CASE WITH MOD? DEAR ALL VETERAN BROTHERS, KINDLY BRING THE ABOVE ANAMOLY, URGENTLY TO THE NOTICE OF UFESM/IESM BOSSES, AT JANTAR MANTAR SO THAT THEY TAKE UP THE MATTER WITH DESW/DM/PM ETC. AND GET THE MOD ORDER MODIFIED. I WISH I AM WRONG IN THE ABOVE CALCULATIONS. AND WE GET CORRECT REVISION OF ENTITLED PENSIONS AND FULL ARREARS. PLEASE, PLEASE, SOMEONE CLARIFY AND PROVE ME WRONG. SGT GAVINI VN VETERAN BLOGGER (SOURCE : AFI 02/S/08, MOD ORDER 11.11.08, CIR.397, 430 & 501, DEPT OF P&PG ORDER OF 30.7.15 AND MOD ORDER OF 3.9.15)

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Relay Hunger strike on: Want One Rank One Pension order in writing

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Despite Prime Minister Narandra Modi’s announcement on Sunday that pre-mature retirees (PMR) will be included under the One Rank, One Pension (OROP) scheme, protesting veterans called the earlier exclusion a “last minute mischief” and citied it as a reason to continue the relay hunger strike till the order to implement OROP was received in black and white. Read: PM Modi clarifies, says OROP also for those who retire early The government sources, on the other hand, justified the exclusion of PMRs saying it was done as an attempt to arrest the likely exodus of soldiers from the armed forces that might be caused by the implementation of OROP. Watch video – Explained: One Rank One Pension  “After the PM’s announcement, we have called off the fast-unto-death. But the last minute mischief of excluding PMRs from OROP has sown a seed of doubt in our minds that anti-armed forces lobby is active within the government. We still do not want to trust anyone and will continue the relay hunger strike till we get the order in writing,” said Group Captain V K Gandhi, General Secretary, Indian Ex-Servicemen Movement (IESM). RELATED Modi govt announces OROP, fails to win over protesting veterans Govt to come up with clarification on OROP: Ex-servicemen One rank, one pension: Ex-servicemen to launch nationwide agitation today He said that the statement regarding implementation of OROP, though read out by the Defence Minister, was issued directly by Prime Minister’s Office. According to Colonel Anil Kaul, spokesperson of the United Front of Ex-Servicemen, the clause to exclude PMRs never ever figured in any of the discussions between the government and veterans. He added that even Defence Minister Parrikar expressed surprise over its inclusion in the evening meeting with veterans. “When we met the Defence Minister at 11.30 am on Saturday, there were only three points on the table and that did not include the question about the PMRs. But then, the Defence Minister surprisingly made an announcement at 3 pm that personnel who retire voluntarily will not be covered under OROP. Upset, when we met him again between 6.30 and 7 pm, he too was surprised about the inclusion of the clause,” Kaul said. According to the veterans, 46 per cent of ex-servicemen are PMRs. The clause to exclude the PMRs from OROP, if applied, would have slashed the OROP budget by 50 per cent — about Rs 4000 crore of the estimated Rs 8000- 10,000 crore.

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BRIEFING ON OROP

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Dear Members Happy Janmashtami to all. UFESM is happy to announce that this Janmashtami has brought Good News of sanction of OROP for ex-servicemen. Fifth September 2015 is a very auspicious day when our fight for OROP, 30 year old demand, has at-last been approved by the NDA Govt. Initially in 2008 ESM started the fight for OROP with the Govt and planned many rallies to communicate to Government that Armed Forces Personnel and Ex-servicemen are being given raw treatment in Independent India. IESM organised many rallies in last six years to convince all political parties that ESM need to be given OROP and need solution for some of their difficulties like medical attention, war memorial and ex-servicemen commission. UFESM was formed in June 2015, to unitedly put up fight for OROP. It is the effort of UFESM that OROP dream has has come true. UFESM Thanks Prime Minister; UFESM sincerely thanks Prime Minister Sh Narendra Modi ji for taking personal interest in OROP and ensuring approval of OROP on 5 Sept 15. Last minute insertion of a clause of VRS surprised ESM all over India and subdued our celebrations. This planted a suspicion in mind of ESM about the real/hidden intent of bureaucrats. This issue was never discussed in any meeting between Government representatives and UFESM. It seems that someone in the Government is not happy with approval of OROP for ESM and has inserted VRS clause to derail OROP for ESM. UFESM feels that there is a need to fix responsibility for this faux paus. This has resulted in changing Jubilation into cautious optimism by ESM. However this issue was clarified by RM Sh Manohar Parrikar to UFESM delegation in meeting in the evening on 5 Sep 2015. He confirmed that VRS is not applicable to ESM and Armed Forces Personnel and hence all personnel taking PMR will be entitled for full OROP. UFESM is thankful to Prime Minister of India Sh Narendra Modi ji for clarifying this in the speech on 6 Sep 15 at Faridabad. He assured ESM that someone is misleading the ESM by inserting the clause of VRS in the declaration of OROP. There is need put all doubts to rest that OROP is applicable in full to all ESMs (including ORs, JCOs and officers). He further confirmed that he has lot of love and respect for ESM and ESM will get full benefit of OROP as announced by RM. Respected Prime Minister sir ESM all over India reciprocate this feeling and affirm their respect for PM. However there are some minor issues which need to be attended on priority for OROP to be fully functional. Government has recommended fixing of pension based on mean of max and min of basic pay of the year; This arithmetic defeats the basic definition of OROP as it will lead to one rank and many pension and hence is not acceptable to ESM. There will be very minimal expenditure to Government on this issue. Periodical pension equalization has to be one year whereas Govt has announced it to be five years thereby completely distorting the OROP definition. Government has recommended that this issue will be referred to a single judge committee to adjudicate the period of pension equalization. UFESM is of the opinion that committee should consist of five members out of which three should be from ESM and one serving soldier under the chairmanship of a judge. This report should be completed in fifteen days or max one month. MOD must confirm the date by which the Government letter will be issued. Agitation and RHS will be called of only after receipt of Government letter. Our experience with bureaucrats has been less than satisfactory because ESM had been shortchanged on many occasions in language of the order. Latest experience being that of Rank pay issue. In view of clarification given by honorable PM that VRS is not applicable to Armed Forces, Fast unto death has been discontinued. All eleven ESM on fast unto death for last 24 days were referred to RR hospital and Rockland Hospital qutab institutional area for medical examination. However RHS and agitation will continue till issuance of Government order for OROP. Col Inderjit Singh, Lt Gen Balbir singh and Maj Gen Satbir singh has provided sterling leadership to lead the campaign to make dream of OROP a reality. All ESM salute their dedication and hard work. This agitation has lasted for 84 days and FUD has lasted for 24 days. The agitation has been going on in over 80 towns across India. The agitation has been very peaceful and has never caused any inconvenience to civil order. Human rights of India has accepted that this agitation has been very disciplined and has recommended for this years prize. Maj Gen Satbir singh has been invited by NRI of USA to visit San Frisco on 18 Sep in view of sterling leadership provided by him in planning and conducting this agitation. He has been invited as special guest to San Frisco to coincide with the visit of PM of India. UFESM has called for a Gaurav Rally at 1000h to 1500h on Saturday 12 Sep 2015 at Jantar Mantar to Celebrate realization of our dream of OROP. Thank Government in fulfilling their promise. Remind Government to iron out the minor problems and issue Government order within 15 days or latest by 30 Sep 15. ESM from all states are requested to attend the rally in large numbers. Gratitude; UFESM is thankful to Sh Rajeev Chandrashekhar MP Rajya Sabha for supporting cause of OROP. He has been true friend of ESM and has helped us in mediating the complex issue of OROP. He had been very helpful in arranging meetings with RM on short notice. Dr Lal's Path lab for extending lab services to check the condition of ESM on Fast unto death. RR hospital for treating ESM on fast needing treatment because of fasting. Rockland Hospital for conducting medical examination of ESM on fast unto death. Dr Col Bheemwal needs a special mention as he had been sending a team of doctors everyday morning to check the ESM on FUD. He had been himself coming every day evening to check the ESM on FUD. Dr Ankit Om and his friends for providing medical cover to ESM on FUD. Bangla sahib Gurudwara and Gurudwara Rakabganj for providing accommodation to ESM visiting Delhi for participating in the agitation. Delhi Gurudwara Prabandhak Committee for providing langar to supporters visiting JM in large numbers. All ESM, NDA courses, Regiments for contributing with open heart to support the agitation. All ESM for providing break fast at JM, Col Ashok Malhotra's contribution needs special mention as he had been instrumental in coordinating with various agencies to provide breakfast. Col Alexander CEO Metro Multimedia Technologies (Digital) for providing banners for making stage for agitation. A team of volunteer ESMs who had selflessly worked in managing all activities at JM, without them management of this agitation would not have been possible. Many veterans of importance who had been helping in arranging meetings at short notice with RM and FM. Regards Gp Capt VK Gandhi VSM Gen Sec IESM (Source- via Gp E-mail)

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TOI EDITORIAL - OROP At Last - NDA makes good its promise, soldiers get their due on a justified demand

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Prime Minister Narendra Modi promised during his Independ ence Day speech to deliver One Rank One Pension (OROP) for retired defence personnel, and now defence minister Manohar Parrikar has fulfilled that pledge. This is a great day for jawans and officers, fulfilling a justified demand of veterans that was outstanding for 42 years. UPA had announced OROP last year but the NDA government will actually implement it now.Under OROP all pensioners of the same rank and duration of service are treated on par and the date at which a soldier retires is irrelevant in determining pension. There are cogent reasons to use OROP as the underlying principle in fixing defence pensions.Though details of OROP announced by Parrikar may not have met with all expectations of veterans, in view of the economic constraints which challenge any government, veterans should accept it. Soldiering has unique dimensions which make it imperative for governments to apply a different yardstick as compared to other arms of government service. A majority of soldiers retire between 35 and 37 years of age, unlike personnel in other arms of government. In addition, given the harsh conditions under which they serve, OROP was a justified demand. Pensions, however, cannot be considered in isolation. All governments face the challenge of prioritising allocation of scarce resources. In India, pensions have been one of the fastest growing expenses in union budgets, increasing by 22.45% between 2011 and 2014. In fiscal 2014 pension payouts recorded Rs 74,896 crore, almost 5% of total spending. In the immediate future, another Rs 8,000-10,000 crore will be spent on defence pensions on account of OROP. Today, defence personnel get about 62% of the aggregate pension payouts of the union government. OROP will further enhance their share. Hopefully, veterans who were initially unhappy with OROP details outlined by Parrikar will rethink their position. India is set for another rise in salaries of central and state government employees 2016 onwards on the heels of suggestions which will be made by 7th Pay Commission. These suggestions must be temperate, keeping in mind the fragile economic situation of the country and the need for fiscal prudence. It is important to remember that India is a country with a young population. If government spends a large part of its finances on salaries and pensions there will be little left over for education and infrastructure, which will take its toll on India's youth. (SOURCE- TOI)

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