Dear Veterans,
A letter written by Lt Gen Raj Kadyan Chairman IESM is enclosed for your information and wide circulation please.
Jai Hind
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Dear Colleagues,
I met the Defence Minister today to discuss progress of some ongoing cases. Issues covered ensue.
OROP
He repeated the by-now-well-known government stand that OROP cannot be given in one go for fear of evoking a similar demand from civilian employees and that we are gradually moving towards narrowing the gap. I clarified that we have no objection to the term OROP being changed for record purposes by some other term like ‘military service pension’ as long the old and new pensioners are equated. I cited the example of the Military Service Pay that was granted exclusively for defence forces and there was not a whimper from others.
Widows’ Pension Enhancement
I stressed that after the Defence Minister confirmed over four months ago that he had cleared the proposal, the file is still on the bureaucratic circuit and that this does no good to the credibility of the high office. I gave my interpretation that it was part of the same Cabinet Secretary’s Committee report where the widows had been erroneously left out and hence it should not need any fresh financial approval. He said it would. I nudged him to take up the matter with the Finance Minister and he made a note.
The Defence Minister clarified that he has already had an official meeting with the three Services and that they would send a comprehensive proposal (including ESM problems). He would then take it personally to the PM soon after the Parliamentary session gets over on 20 May 2012. By that time the new budget would also be in effect.
Miscellaneous Points
Not unexpectedly, the discussion became wide ranging. Some points that could be of interest are:
• Reducing government doggedness in pursuing court cases involving serving personnel and the veterans that the government loses at lower courts. He reiterated his already having issued directions that each case be examined on merit.
• Need to control the bureaucracy that enjoys unbridled power with no accountability. Having cited concrete examples from history I repeated the term I had coined in a TV debate on 30 March, “We are a democracy ruled by the bureaucracy”.
Best regards,
Lt Gen Raj Kadyan
Chairman IESM
262, Sector - 17A
Gurgaon - 122 001
A letter written by Lt Gen Raj Kadyan Chairman IESM is enclosed for your information and wide circulation please.
Jai Hind
**********
Dear Colleagues,
I met the Defence Minister today to discuss progress of some ongoing cases. Issues covered ensue.
OROP
He repeated the by-now-well-known government stand that OROP cannot be given in one go for fear of evoking a similar demand from civilian employees and that we are gradually moving towards narrowing the gap. I clarified that we have no objection to the term OROP being changed for record purposes by some other term like ‘military service pension’ as long the old and new pensioners are equated. I cited the example of the Military Service Pay that was granted exclusively for defence forces and there was not a whimper from others.
Widows’ Pension Enhancement
I stressed that after the Defence Minister confirmed over four months ago that he had cleared the proposal, the file is still on the bureaucratic circuit and that this does no good to the credibility of the high office. I gave my interpretation that it was part of the same Cabinet Secretary’s Committee report where the widows had been erroneously left out and hence it should not need any fresh financial approval. He said it would. I nudged him to take up the matter with the Finance Minister and he made a note.
The Defence Minister clarified that he has already had an official meeting with the three Services and that they would send a comprehensive proposal (including ESM problems). He would then take it personally to the PM soon after the Parliamentary session gets over on 20 May 2012. By that time the new budget would also be in effect.
Miscellaneous Points
Not unexpectedly, the discussion became wide ranging. Some points that could be of interest are:
• Reducing government doggedness in pursuing court cases involving serving personnel and the veterans that the government loses at lower courts. He reiterated his already having issued directions that each case be examined on merit.
• Need to control the bureaucracy that enjoys unbridled power with no accountability. Having cited concrete examples from history I repeated the term I had coined in a TV debate on 30 March, “We are a democracy ruled by the bureaucracy”.
Best regards,
Lt Gen Raj Kadyan
Chairman IESM
262, Sector - 17A
Gurgaon - 122 001
SORRY FOR MY HARSH COMMENT
ReplyDelete1.KINDLY DO NOT GIVE WRONG INFORMATION & GIVE A DIFFERENT VERSION TO REMAIN IN NEWS
2.OROP HAS BEEN REJECTED BY CS & RM IS ALSO NOW SAYING IT IS NOT FEASIBLE DUE TO ADM,FIN & WORK CONTENT
14May ,2012
Dear Col,
Reply recd from the dealing sec is given in succeeding paras.
The Comments on the issue raised by the petitioner are as under :-
(a) XXX
(b) The demand for One Rank One Pension has not been accepted by the Govt. The recommendations of the Cabinet Secy's Committee has been implemented by the Govt. which have brought significant improvement in the pension of JCO/OR and War Veterans.
(c) XX
(d) XX
(e) The issue of grant of rank pay wef 01 Jan 86 is sub judice and shall be examined as per the direction of the Hon'ble Apex Court once order are issued.
With Regards,
Webmaster, Indian Army
3.THE CASE HAS BEEN TAKEN UP ON MY PETITION & OROP IS LIKELY TO COME
A]
Indian Army 26 JUN,2012
Dear Col,
1. XX
2. However, the issue of OROP is also being taken up at the highest
level separately and is under consideration with Govt.
3.The petitioner may be informed accordingly.
With Regards,
Webmaster, Indian Army.
SO KINDLY GENERALS DO NOT TALK GENERAL THINGS & MIS GUIDE LAKHS. EITHER DO SOME THING CONSTRUCTIVE ELSE VANISH
COL LAMBA
BRAIN WAVE OF GENERAL MILITARY SERVICE PENSION
ReplyDelete1. DO YOU KNOW THE LONG PROCESS OF OROP
A]The new, revised pension would be implemented beginning this month, Finance Minister Pranab Mukherjee told the Lok Sabha while presenting the Budget for 2009-10.
B]RECOMMENDATION OF RAJYA SABHA COMMITTEE ON PETITIONS
FOR GRANT OF ONE RANK ONE PENSION (OROP)
1. A Committee was formed on a the petitions to Rajya Sabha, under the Chairmanship
of Shri Bhagat Singh Koshyari, Rajya Sabha MP for considering grant of One Rank One
Pension (OROP) to retired Armed Forces Personnel.
2. As per the information available, the committee submitted its report on 16 Dec 11
(Published on 19 Dec,2011). By and large the committee has recommended implementing
OROP in Defence Forces across the board. The committee has also recommended a
separate Pay Commission for defence personnel in future citing different terms &
Conditions and nature of duties.
C]Personnel Below Officer Rank (PBOR) and Commissioned Officers were made, which have been accepted by the Government and orders in implementation of all the ecommendations have been issued. These are available at www.pcdapension.nic.in. Implementation of these orders has not only significantly reduced the gap between the past and the current pensioners but has also considerably improved the pension of ex-servicemen including disabled ex-servicemen. This information was given by Minister of State for Defence Shri MM Pallam Raju in a written reply to Shri Jyoti Mirdha and others in Lok Sabha .
D]One rank, one pension’ for officers, too [Tribune News Service, PTI; New Delhi, July 13]
Defence Minister A K Antony today clarified in the Lok Sabha that "one rank, one pension" recommendation of the Cabinet Secretary-led panel had been accepted by the government for jawans as well as officers.
E]One rank one pension to the armed forces personnel… Posted: 30 Jan 2012 06:30 PM PST
Parliament of India (Rajya Sabha Secretariat)
Press Release
2. MILITARY SERVICE PENSION WILL HAVE TO FOLLOW ABOVE ROUTE AFTER
A]AMMENDING
1]CONSTITUTION 2]PENSION RULES 3]SETTING UP A COMMITEE4ACCEPTENCE BY CHIEFS4 BY MOD 5]BY CIVIL COUNTER PARTS 6]CABINET SECRETARY TEAM7 LAW MIN 8 FIN MIN9 GOM 10 PMO & ALL ABOVE .FINALLY LIKE OROP ONE CS WILL REJECT IT.
I AM SURE THE GEN WILL NOT SURVIVE TO SEE ITS RESULTS & even he will deprive benefit to present serving lot
IF YOU CANNOT DO ANY CONSTRUCTIVE BETTER KEEP QUIET & VANISH
widow pension enhancement has not been elaborated by him & what does he mean so no comments
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