FAQs on Implementation
of OROP vide Govt. Order dated 17.01.2013
Q: 1 Are these orders
applicable to those pensioners also whose date of commencement of pension is
exactly 01.01.2006 ?
A: Yes, these orders are
applicable to all the pensioners/family pensioners whose date of commencement
of pension is on or before 01.01.2006.
Q: 2 The date of
commencement of family pension in respect of a family pensioner is 01.04.2006
whose late husband had retired from the service on 31.08.1999. Will the family
pension of the family be revised under these orders?
A: Yes, the family
pension will be revised under these orders because the deceased soldier was a
pre-2006 retiree.
Q: 3 It is being
contended by some pensioners/their associations that the arrears on account of
this revision should be paid w.e.f. 01.01.2006 as the orders are merely an
amendment to GOI, MoD letter dated 11.11.2008. Please clarify?
A: As the provision of
these orders are effective from 24the September 2012. Hence no arrears shall be
allowed for the past period.
Q:4 Will the additional
pension also be revised accordingly ?
A: The improved pension
will be the basic pension from 24.09.2012 and hence additional pension payable
will also be revised accordingly by the PDA.
Q:5 The basic pension of
a pre-2006 pensioner (Rank - Havildar , Group ‘D’) of Army having total
qualifying service of 15 years is slated to be increased from 3500/- p.m. to
5301/- P.M. Is such a high increase in Basic Pension is in order?
A: The increase in BP
from 3500/- to 5301/- P.M for the pensioner with particulars as mentioned above
is in order. It is evident from the existing basic pension of 3500/-PM and the
particulars given above that the PDA has not revised pension of the individual
correctly w.e.f. 01.07.2009. The correct entitlement of the individual is as
under:
Basic Pension w.e.f. :
Q:6 In most of the cases
neither the pensioner has applied to the PDA for revision of their pension nor
any Corr PPO or instructions have been received by the PDA from the PSA. Please
supply the proforma of application in this regard?
A: It has been clearly
mentioned in the orders that the revision of pension by PDAs has to be made
with reference to Pension Tables annexed to the orders. No further
authorization from the PSA or any application from the affected pensioner is
required to carry out the revision.
Q:7 The tables annexed to
circular No 501 & Circular No. 502 start from QS of 15 years onwards. How
to revise the pension of a pensioner having less than 15 years if qualifying
years?
A: Following elements of
pension / type of pension are to be revised by PSA.
§ Special
Pension
§ Invalid
pension
§ Service
element of disability pension in respect of PBOR discharged with less than 15
years qualifying service
§ Service
pension of TA personnel irrespective of their QS service and
§ Service
element of War Injury Pension and Liberalized Disability Pension
Q:8 Mr. ‘X’ who is a Hony
Nb Sub, Gp ‘D’ pensioner having total QS of 24 years is already drawing a basic
pension of 7750/- PM. However as per table – 4 (Army) annexued to Cir No 501,
his basic pension w.e.f. 24.9.12 should be 7601/- PM. Please advise how to
regulate such cases.
A: The existing pension
of the pensioner in such cases might have been revised by PCDA (P) by issuing
Corr PPO (s) based on some courts orders etc. No action by PDA is required in
such cases.
Q:9 Mr ‘X’ is a DSC
pensioner in receipt of two pensions, one for regular Army service, and another
for DSC service. Are both these pensions to be revised by PDAs?
A: The pension for
regular Army service will only be revised under these orders by the PDA. A
reference for revision of pension for DSC service will be sent to PCDA (P).
Q:10 The tables annexed
to Circular No 501, in respect of DSC pensioner seem to be incomplete e.g. the
table in respect of Sep of DSC are only up to QS of 23 years. How to revise
pension of a sep of DSC who has total QS of 24 years or above?
A: Sepoy in DSC have
maximum engagement period up to 20 years only with the exception that the
maximum term of engagement can be up to 23 years in case of pensioner retired
on or 30.5.98. Hence QS in such type of cases may be restricted to the maximum
permissible and pension revised accordingly. Period-wise complete list of
maximum terms of engagement for JCOs/ORs is enclosed in Appendix-X to Cir No
501.
Q:11 There is no table
annexed to Cir No 502 to revise Ordinary Family Pension for NOKs of DSC
Personnel. Please advise how to revise such cases ?
A: The family pension in
respect of DSC personnel who are in receipt of family pension for only DSC
service are to be revised at the same rates as given for family pensioners of
Regular Army. DSC personnel on “clerical duty” and “other duty” are entitled
for family pension of regular Army personnel of group “Y” and “Z” respectively.
Q:12 What are the basic
fields/data required to revise pension under these order?
A: The basic fields/data
required to revise pension under these orders are as follows:
1.
Type of pension viz Retiring pension/service pension/ Ordinary
Family Pension/ Special Family Pension/ War Injury Pension/ Dependant Pension
2.
Rank of the pensioner
3.
Group of the pensioner (only for JCOs / PBORs)
4.
Qualifying service (without weightage)
5.
Record Office
6.
Date of commencement
7.
Date of Retiremen
Q :13 How to look for the
above information in the PPO or related record ?
A: In case of Post -86
retires all the information is generally available in the original PPO of the
Pensioner. In cases where the required information is not available in the PPO
or other record of the PDA, the missing information may be called for from the
PSA concerned.
Q:14 In case of Pre-86
retires Qualifying service is generally not available in the PPO of the
pensioner. Pl. advise the way out to regulate such cases.
A: The qualifying service
in such type of cases can be looked for in the original Descriptive Roll of the
pensioner or in the Corrigendum PPO(s). Original discharge book/certificate
issued to the pensioner by the Record office is also an authentic source of
such information.
Q:15 Is capturing of
information about Record office financially importance or can be done away
with?
A: Following are the 4
major categories of JCOs/PBORs based on Record office.
1.
Naval Record Office
2.
Air Force Record Office
3.
DSC Cannanore Record Office
4.
All other Record offices except those mentioned above.
Different tables are available to cater to these categories and hence the importance of information about Record Office can’t be done away with.
Different tables are available to cater to these categories and hence the importance of information about Record Office can’t be done away with.
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RESPECTED PM SIR
ReplyDelete1; UPA II HAS BEEN UNKIND & UNCONCERNED TO ARMED FORCES. THE CASE WAS UNDULY DENIED BY GOVT. NOW COURT HAS GIVEN DECISION TO PAY WHICH SHOWS GOVT WAS WRONG. THE AMOUNT IS TO BE PAID WEF 24/9/2012 INTEREST WEF 1/1/2013 @ 9%INTEREST
BUT ACTUALLY IT SHOULD BE PAID WEF 1/1/2006.
HOPE UPA II WILL PAY WEF 1/1/2006 ELSE IT WILLAMOUNT TO TAKING BREAD FROM MOUTH OFOLD AILING PENSIONERS & WIDOWS. WHICH NO ONE WILL TOLERATE ,EVEN IF U TAKE FOOD
FROM ANIMAL MOUTH ,THE ANIMAL WILL BITE BACK. THUS IN CASE UPA II WANTS VOTES OF FORCES[MONEY EARNED BY BLOOD] THEN GIVE THEM THEIR DUE WEF 1/1/2006. [ LOOTERS ARE LOOTING CRORES ALMOST WEEKLY IN NEWS] KINDLY PAY THE FOLLOWING ALSO ELSE THE VALUABLE VOTES MAY VANISH
2]NFU STATUS: ARMY HAS NOT BEEN GIVEN NFU STATUS YET.KINDLY DO AT THE EARLIEST WEF 1/1/2006
A]. THE BULK OF ARMY OFFICER RETIRES IN Lt COL RANK & BELOW.
SO IDEALLY THEY SHOULD BE IN SUPER TIME SCALE.
B]COL [SELECTION GRADE] SHOULD BE ABOVE SUPER TIME SCALE,
SO IS BRIG, BUT IN REALITY IT IS NOT SO. THEY ARE BEING PAID DEGRADED
PAY & PENSION
C]Colonel has been equated with Non-Functional Selection Grade (NFSG). The rank of a
DIG who was till date between a Lt Colonel and a Colonel is now officially equal to a
Brigadier. Both are now on a Grade Pay of Rs 8900
D]IT IS WORTH MENTIONING THAT POLICE HAS GONE ONE RANK UP
ALREADY DURING COAS MALHOTRA TIME. HE DID HIS BEST TO REVERSE
POLICE ACTION, BUT COULD NOT DO SO & DID NOT UPGRADE RANK OF HIS FORCES.NOW FURTHER DEGRADATION
E]WHERE IS REWARD TO COL/BRIG WHO WORKED HARD FOR
PROMOTION & ORGANISATIONAL GROWTH, ALL THEIR LIFE
COL/BRIG SHOULD BE PLACED IN HAG SELECTION GRADE
COL/BRIG IS IN FORE FRONT DURING PEACE/WAR AND
WITH DIRECT COMMUNICATION WITH MEN.COL/BRIG IS A KING PIN BETWEEN TROOPS & HIGHER UPS.
3] DA SHOULD NOT BE TAXED: IT IS UNJUSTIFIED TO TAX DA. BY TAXING THE DA, EMPLOYEES ARE DENIED THEIR LEGITIMATE RIGHT TO FIGHT
INFLATION AS A PIE IS TAKEN AWAY FROM THEIR PLATE BY INCOME TAX.
IT WAS NOT BEING TAXED FOR SIX DECADES, BUT SMART EX FM PC HAS TAXED THE DA AT HIS OWN WISDOM & NO WHEN RESISTED/CONTESTED.KINDLY DONOT TAX DA.
4. MERGER OF DA ON ATTAINING DA SLAB OF 50 % IS NOT DONE IN 6 CPC: IT WAS IN 5th CPC, BUT AN OMMISSION HAS TAKEN PLACE & NEEDS CORRECTION. DA IS MOTHER OF ALL ALLOWANCES. AS SERVING PERSONALS OTHER ALLOWANCES HAVE BEEN ENHANCED ON BASIS OF DA AT 50% BY 25% THAN HOW CAN YOU FORGET MERGING DA IN PAY/PENSION AS DP.[BABU FORGOT TO MENTION & CREATED MESS FOR ALL]
DEAR SIR
ReplyDelete1.OUR GENERALS HAVE RUINED ARMY FOR THEIR PERSONAL GAINS
2. ARE U SHOCKED .I BELIEVE YES.
SEE IN ARMY ONLY
A] EX COAS JJ SINGH: WHEN CASE OF RANK PAY WAS RAKED .HE WAS THE ONE HE PUT HIS FOOT DOWN .SAYING RANK PAY HAS NOT BEEN CLAIMED, SO IT CANNOT BE GIVEN OR WORDS TO THAT EFFECT. SEE LEVEL OF FOOLING HIMSELF & HARMING ARMY TO GET PLUM POSTING OF GUV AFTER RETIREMENT. THE GENERAL MUST BE AWARE THAT PAY IS NEVER CLAIMED . HE HAS PUT EVERYONE IN SPIN FOR HIS PERSONAL RISE. I AM SURE HE TOO MUST HAVE GOT RANK PAY ARREARS BY NOW.A SHAMELESS ACT.
B] EARLIER THERE WAS ONE IG POLICE IN COMBINED HARYANA+UT+PUNJAB. IN EX COAS MALHOTRA POLICE WENT ONE RANK UP. NEITHER HE UP GRADED ARMY NOR HE PUT HIS FOOT DOWN FOR POLICE. SO IN AID TO CIVIL POWER ARMY OFFICER WENT DOWN IN RANK STRUCTURE.NOW SEE AMOUNT OF DGP+IGP FLOATING IN THESE PLACES
C] IN 6th CPC GOVT WAS GIVING NFU STATUS TO US.NAVY & AIR FORCE WERE WILLING BUT ARMY DENIED. TO DATE A TIME SCALE IAS/IPS OFFICER GETS PENSION OF Lt Gen. MOREOVER THERE IS COMMAND & CONTROL PROBLEM NOW A CWE IS SENIOR TO MAJ GEN
D]OUR ACR SYSTEM ALLOWS WRONG ONE TO COME UP. PEN PICTURE HAS NO MEANING WHICH 95% OFFICER MAY NOT KNOW. IT IS NUMERIC RATING WHICH MATTERS . AN EXCELLENT COMMAND WORD IN PEN PICTURE WILL NOT MAKE UP IF AT ONE ODD PLACE 7 REMARKS ARE GIVEN IN QUALITY . ALTHOUGH 7/8 ARE NOT PROPERLY DEMARCATED [ 7 OR 8 HAVE EQUALITY TO FOOL THE RECEIVER]
E] CORRUPT & GOOD CHAMACHA'S MAKE UP
F]THERE ARE 2 PAY BANDS FOR OFFICER'S PAY.THERE ARE 2 BAND FOR ACCN .BUT FOR COMFORTS LIKE CANTEEN * OTHERS THERE ARE SO MANY BANDS.
I] HONY Lt TO COL. CO HAS BEEN CLUBBED WITH HIS JCO'S . WHERE IS STATUS LEVEL FOR BULK OF OFFICER
II] BRIG ANOTHER BAND
III]MAJ GEN ANOTHER BAND
IV] Lt GEN ANOTHER BAND
V] COAS ANOTHER BAND UNLIMITED LIQOUR. HEIGHT OF GREEDINESS.
DO NOT YOU SEE A MOCKERY OF SYSTEM WITHIN US. HAVE ONLY TWO BANDS. RED TAPE BELOW & RED TAPE. MORE INTERSETED FOR DATE OF BIRTH ISSUE EX COAS
G] ALWAYS START CORRECTION FROM HOME ONLY THEN UNITED ACTION AS U DESIRE CAN START.FIRST CLEAN ON MESS
H] 50% MERGER DA AS ON 1/1/2006. NONE OF CHIEF HAS PUT DOWN FOOT. WHEN SERVING GOT ALL ALLOWNCES ENHANCED WHY NOT MERGER OF DA WAS TAKEN WHICH IS MOTHER OF ALL ALLOWANCES
K]DUE TO BABUS WRONG ACTIONS OUR PAY/PENSION IS WRONGLY BEEN GIVEN. 13 COURTS INCL SC HAS GIVEN RULING TO PAY SUM OF[ BASIC+GRADE PAY+MSP] WEF FROM 1/1/2006. BUT IT IS LIKELY TO BE PAID FROM WEF 24/9/2012. NO ONE HAS PUT FOOT DOWN & AGAIN WE ARE BACK IN COURT NOW
2. CHANGE IS IN NOT FAR WAY . DEMOCRACY HAS TO GO AS IT IS ALMOST FAILED & CORRUPTION IS ON ON IT'S PEAK. ARISTOTLE THEORY OF GOVT CHANGE WILL TAKE INTO EFFECT